<div dir="ltr">Good work CAVO and allies- <br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Chris Jerdonek</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.jerdonek@gmail.com">chris.jerdonek@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:44 AM<br>Subject: Re: DHS remarks re: OS ??<br>To: Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr">Amazing -- check out the reversal!<br><br><a href="https://github.com/WhiteHouse/source-code-policy/issues/222" target="_blank">https://github.com/WhiteHouse/source-code-policy/issues/222</a><br><br>Excerpt:<br><br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) strongly supports the proposed Federal Source Code Policy. We believe moving towards Government-wide reuse of custom-developed code and releasing Federally-funded custom code as open source software has significant financial, technical, and cybersecurity benefits and will better enable DHS to meet our mission of securing the nation from the many threats we face.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>--Chris</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Brent Turner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com" target="_blank">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Done on both -cobbled together </div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Chris Jerdonek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.jerdonek@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.jerdonek@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Brent, I don't see your reply in the comments:<br>
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<a href="https://github.com/WhiteHouse/source-code-policy/issues/152" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/WhiteHouse/source-code-policy/issues/152</a><br>
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--Chris<br>
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On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com" target="_blank">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I posted a reply -- Best it comes from me so as to keep you legits<br>
> insulated from shrapnel<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com" target="_blank">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I don't know if David will as he works with DHS et al and may not want to<br>
>> out himself--<br>
>><br>
>> I will do it if no one else will<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Chris Jerdonek <<a href="mailto:chris.jerdonek@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.jerdonek@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Brent, someone should correct DHS's comments on the record on the GitHub<br>
>>> issue. Can David do it?<br>
>>><br>
>>> In particular, the stuff about FOUO.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Btw, it's ironic that DHS provided their comments in the form of an Excel<br>
>>> spreadsheet, which is itself a proprietary format that requires Microsoft<br>
>>> software to read natively.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --Chris<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Friday, April 15, 2016, Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com" target="_blank">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
>>>> From: David RR Webber (XML) <<a href="mailto:david@drrw.info" target="_blank">david@drrw.info</a>><br>
>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 6:03 PM<br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CAVO] DHS remarks re: OS ??<br>
>>>> To: CAVO <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org" target="_blank">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Brent - no this is just silliness / paranoia.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sensitive software is listed as FOUO - For Official Use Only - and that<br>
>>>> information is restricted internal only.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> There are review procedures in place. They are not going to publish<br>
>>>> anything that would be an at risk disclosure.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I see this is just drum beating to ensure that there is no rolling back<br>
>>>> in these areas.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Having said that - I have seen deliberate abuse of this - where parties<br>
>>>> label non-sensitive items - to prevent access / criticism of the content<br>
>>>> involved - and/or to continue funding of pet projects that are clearly<br>
>>>> worthless - or have public open solutions already in place - but we're<br>
>>>> paying to make a poor substitute government one.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Worse - duplicate efforts in different government areas are essentially<br>
>>>> building the same thing. The GAO should be all over this - but again - lack<br>
>>>> of transparency and correct labelling of purpose - prevents correlation -<br>
>>>> and cross-pollenization.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ironically there is probably a need for such government open source and<br>
>>>> internal sharing more than public!!!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> David<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------<br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CAVO] DHS remarks re: OS ??<br>
>>>> From: Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com" target="_blank">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> Date: Thu, April 14, 2016 11:37 pm<br>
>>>> To: CAVO <<a href="mailto:CAVO@opensource.org" target="_blank">CAVO@opensource.org</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Could it be that these remarks are not actually from the DHS.. ??<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Or could it be that a vendor interested party has managed to provide<br>
>>>> misinformation to someone " up the ladder " ?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thoughts ??<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com" target="_blank">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="https://fcw.com/articles/2016/04/12/open-source-cyber.aspx?m=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fcw.com/articles/2016/04/12/open-source-cyber.aspx?m=1</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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