<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>My experience with all this is not at all positive I'm afraid.</div><div><br></div><div>Whomever you assign it to then thinks they "own it" - and start down a slippery path to the dark side of control mania.</div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively - all the original players leave there - and then the new folks ignore it - loose the domains - passwords et al.</div><div><br></div><div>My preference is for the Github / Sourceforge model - where there is a team of technical folks managing the source base - and have a vested interest in that. Plus - you have people assigned tasks - and are submitting updates - and all changes are tracked.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you want to have some way for organizations - such as States or Cities to be stewards - and request features - fund updates - then that is cool - building an engaged user commuity.</div><div><br></div><div><b>A great model for that is what LibreOffice is doing and see this posting from there:</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b><a href="http://webmink.com/2016/02/19/joining-the-document-foundation-board">http://webmink.com/2016/02/19/joining-the-document-foundation-board</a>/<br></b></div><div><br></div><div>Please don't call it a Foundation though - as Simon Phipps notes!!!<br></div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [CAVO] A host for an open source election system project<br>
From: Patrick Masson <<a href="mailto:masson@opensource.org">masson@opensource.org</a>><br>
Date: Tue, February 23, 2016 12:57 pm<br>
To: <a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:kcopenhaver@choate.com">kcopenhaver@choate.com</a>, <a href="mailto:tonyw@opensource.org">tonyw@opensource.org</a>,<br>
<a href="mailto:chris.jerdonek@sfgov.org">chris.jerdonek@sfgov.org</a>, 'CAVO' <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br>
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OK, didn't mean to imply a value proposition, just thinking of other possible homes for the project.<br> <br> All the best,<br> Patrick<br> <br> On Tue, 2016-02-23 at 09:07 -0800, Lawrence Rosen wrote: <blockquote type="CITE"> Patrick, while I respect Software Freedom Conservancy for its work, we couldn't find a more politically charged organization to scare adopters about such software. SFC is into license enforcement more than software development. Open source election systems have to be trusted, not forced by licensors. <br> <br> <br> <br> My support for GPLv3 for this open source software has also to do with trust. I believe it is essential that the majority of the worldwide open source development community also know that their election software will always be free. They trust GPLv3 for that more than I personally do, but that's good enough incentive for me to support that license for this software.<br> <br> <br> <br> /Larry<br> <br> <br> <br> </blockquote> <blockquote type="CITE"> <b>From:</b> Patrick Masson [<a href="mailto:masson@opensource.org">mailto:masson@opensource.org</a>] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:52 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a><br> <b>Cc:</b> 'CAVO' <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:tonyw@opensource.org">tonyw@opensource.org</a>; <a href="mailto:chris.jerdonek@sfgov.org">chris.jerdonek@sfgov.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kcopenhaver@choate.com">kcopenhaver@choate.com</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: A host for an open source election system project<br> <br> <br> </blockquote> <blockquote type="CITE"> <br> <br> Larry,<br> <br> Knowing your interest in GPL projects, I was also thinking you might reach out to the Software Freedom Conservancy as well <<a target="_blank" href="https://sfconservancy.org/members/current/">https://sfconservancy.org/members/current/</a>>.<br> <br> Best,<br> Patrick<br> <br> <br> On Tue, 2016-02-23 at 08:43 -0800, Lawrence Rosen wrote: <br> <br> <blockquote> Patrick Masson of OSI has suggested that CAVO and San Francisco and the other stakeholders in an open source election system consider affiliating with a non-profit organization that can run software projects like ours. A trusted development and governance community needs to provide guidance around starting an open source project and creating an authentic community of practice and options.<br> <br> <br> <br> Linux Foundation was specifically mentioned as an appropriate host, but there are also others.<br> <br> <br> <br> Please share your comments and suggestions about this. With your permission, the OSI board and the San Francisco leaders and the rest of us at CAVO can start to approach Linux Foundation and others about hosting open source election systems.<br> <br> <br> <br> /Larry<br> <br> <br> <br> Lawrence Rosen<br> <br> Rosenlaw & Einschlag (<a target="_blank" href="http://www.rosenlaw.com/">www.rosenlaw.com</a>) <br> <br> 3001 King Ranch Rd., Ukiah, CA 95482<br> <br> Cell: 707-478-8932 <br> <br> <br> <br> </blockquote> <br> <br> <br> <br> </blockquote> <br> <hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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