<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Larry,</div><div><br></div><div>Basically there are two camps for any software solutions<br></div><div><br></div><div>1) Vendors - for profit - normal business modus operandi applies - they are NOT giving anyone access to their code<br></div><div><br></div><div>2) Open source companies - the approach is in the name! Then they provide services and support on a fee basis - this is the classic "RedHat" model - a $1B a year revenue company - so clearly the model works.<br></div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div>p.s. If you are collecting marketing data, and that ties back into tracking who has voted, and sending them reminders - and incentives - and social networking - and you don't think that could have conflicts?!<br></div>
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Subject: Re: [CAVO] Online AAAS election<br>
From: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
Date: Sun, October 18, 2015 10:27 pm<br>
To: "'CAVO'" <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br>
Cc: Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">doing marketing survey's seems somewhat of a conflict of interest.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Why?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">open source is key for people who are claiming integrity of their elections.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is no need to sell me on that. :-) But one way that open source software is sometimes created is by proprietary companies realizing that they are not making money by selling their software, but by selling services (such as marketing surveys?). Perhaps there are proprietary companies like this one out there ready to make the leap to FOSS by donating their software for a GPLv3 project? This can perhaps enhance their service business.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I'm just wondering about the elections software that's out there....<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> David RR Webber (XML) [<a href="mailto:david@drrw.info">mailto:david@drrw.info</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 18, 2015 7:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>; CAVO <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CAVO] Online AAAS election<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">No.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">However - also doing marketing survey's seems somewhat of a conflict of interest.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Again - open source is key for people who are claiming integrity of their elections.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">David<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="replyBlockquote"><div id="wmQuoteWrapper"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [CAVO] Online AAAS election<br>From: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com"><span style="color:windowtext">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</span></a>><br>Date: Sun, October 18, 2015 2:09 pm<br>To: "'CAVO'" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org"><span style="color:windowtext">cavo@opensource.org</span></a>><br>Cc: Lawrence Rosen <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com"><span style="color:windowtext">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Do any of you know about this software? /Larry<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:.5in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="http://www.aaas.org/annual-election?et_rid=54800781&et_cid=52288" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">http://www.aaas.org/annual-election?et_rid=54800781&et_cid=52288</span></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:.5in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">From that website: "</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#505050;background:white">The election is administered by Survey & Ballot Systems — a company specializing in secure member voting and independently verifiable results."</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in;text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size="3" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">_______________________________________________<br>CAVO mailing list<br><a target="_blank" href="mailto:CAVO@opensource.org"><u><span style="color:blue">CAVO@opensource.org</span></u></a><br><a target="_blank" href="https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo"><u><span style="color:blue">https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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