<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Larry,</div><div><br></div><div>Seems like great minds think alike - <a href="http://www.openlogic.com/programs/ppc/open-source-software">http://www.openlogic.com/programs/ppc/open-source-software</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>However - for voting software - probably easiest to create a page on Wikipedia - and just catalog software available - capabilities - license and such - similar to this page:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_XML_editors">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_XML_editors</a><br> but for online open source voting packages.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, David<br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [CAVO] Online voting<br>
From: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, October 16, 2015 3:10 pm<br>
To: "'CAVO'" <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br>
Cc: Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>>, 'Jim Jagielski'<br>
<<a href="mailto:jim@jaguNET.com">jim@jaguNET.com</a>>, 'Alan Dechert' <<a href="mailto:dechert@gmail.com">dechert@gmail.com</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks, David. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I still hope for integration and aggregation of a lot of open source election and voting software, just as there is with Linux for our open source operating system. So if there are open source election solutions already in the UK and in Apache, let's integrate and aggregate. CAVO can do that.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Should we set up a WIKI here in which such open source software can be identified?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">P.S. I copied Jim Jagielski to this thread. He's one of the best authorities I know for integrating and aggregating open source software. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> David RR Webber (XML) [<a href="mailto:david@drrw.info">mailto:david@drrw.info</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 16, 2015 12:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>; CAVO <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Jim Jagielski' <<a href="mailto:jim@jaguNET.com">jim@jaguNET.com</a>>; 'Alan Dechert' <<a href="mailto:dechert@gmail.com">dechert@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CAVO] Online voting<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Larry,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">For associations and public entity board voting there are already open source solutions available.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The most used one is developed by guy in the UK.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><a target="_blank" href="http://OASIS-open.org"><span style="color:windowtext">OASIS-open.org</span></a> uses it for example.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">David<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="replyBlockquote"><div id="wmQuoteWrapper"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [CAVO] Online voting<br>From: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com"><span style="color:windowtext">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</span></a>><br>Date: Fri, October 16, 2015 2:37 pm<br>To: "'CAVO'" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org"><span style="color:windowtext">cavo@opensource.org</span></a>><br>Cc: Lawrence Rosen <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com"><span style="color:windowtext">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</span></a>>, 'Jim Jagielski'<br><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:jim@jaguNET.com"><span style="color:windowtext">jim@jaguNET.com</span></a>>, 'Alan Dechert' <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:dechert@gmail.com"><span style="color:windowtext">dechert@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">CAVO developers:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">One of the advantages of open source software is that it is free to be improved by anyone who wants to.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The San Francisco report (San Francisco Local Agency Formation Commission entitled "Study on Open Source Voting Systems") does not support online voting at this time for reasons relating to security and legal certification. But there is no reason why an open source project can't develop online voting tools for our own uses. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">For example, the Apache membership votes every year for a board of directors and for new members. They already trust email from specific email addresses. They already trust online voting. They and/or we can create an open source online voting module for ourselves regardless of what government agencies are yet prepared to trust.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">CAVO can support a variety of open source projects.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">P.S. The existing Apache ALv2 license is also acceptable to government agencies, and it is already compatible with both GPLv3 and MPLv2 licenses! :-)<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in;text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size="3" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">_______________________________________________<br>CAVO mailing list<br><a target="_blank" href="mailto:CAVO@opensource.org"><u><span style="color:blue">CAVO@opensource.org</span></u></a><br><a target="_blank" href="https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo"><u><span style="color:blue">https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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