<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Larry,</div><div><br></div><div>You missed my point. I suspect that a lot of this code could show up repurposed in the OSET repository - but with an OSET license attribution put on it instead... the same people are involved in both OSET and the VIP code base...<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [CAVO] Fwd: Re: [License-review] OSET Foundation (See Our<br>
Draft Statement From Last Night + "?")<br>
From: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, September 14, 2015 1:19 pm<br>
To: "'CAVO'" <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br>
Cc: Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">"The VIP spec, documentation, and all other content in this repository are available under a<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a target="_blank" href="https://github.com/votinginfoproject/vip-specification/blob/vip5/LICENSE.md"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4078C0;background:white;text-decoration:none">Creative Commons-Attribution license, version 4.0</span></a><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">. Instructions for proper attribution are available in the </span><a target="_blank" href="https://github.com/votinginfoproject/vip-specification/blob/vip5/CREDITS.md"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4078C0;background:white;text-decoration:none">CREDITS file</span></a><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">."</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This has nothing to do with the OSET license. /Larry</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> David RR Webber (XML) [<a href="mailto:david@drrw.info">mailto:david@drrw.info</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 13, 2015 6:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> CAVO <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CAVO] Fwd: Re: [License-review] OSET Foundation (See Our Draft Statement From Last Night + "?")<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I see they have a lot of code up on the VIP portal - I suspect this is what they are referring too, and maybe some besides.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><a target="_blank" href="https://github.com/votinginfoproject/vip-specification">https://github.com/votinginfoproject/vip-specification</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">David<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="replyBlockquote"><div id="wmQuoteWrapper"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [CAVO] Fwd: Re: [License-review] OSET Foundation (See Our Draft<br>Statement From Last Night + "?")<br>From: Lawrence Rosen <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>Date: Sun, September 13, 2015 5:00 pm<br>To: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div id="composer_signature"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#575757">Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">From: "Meeker, Heather J." <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:hmeeker@omm.com">hmeeker@omm.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Date: 9/13/2015 12:48 PM (GMT-08:00) <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">To: License submissions for OSI review <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:license-review@opensource.org">license-review@opensource.org</a>> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Subject: Re: [License-review] OSET Foundation (See Our Draft Statement From Last Night + "?") <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">We have been asked whether our license will apply to a significant and sustained project, and I am writing to answer that question. (The query from Josh and Richard is reproduced below for reference.)<br><br>1. The Foundation's TrustTheVote Project maintains several repositories, some public and some not yet public. We are in the process of reorganizing our repositories, some of which are on github. The repositories contain a substantial amount of source code for election administration apps. Software for voting machine components is still too early in development to be publicly released.<br><br>2. A good portion of our Open Source Election Technology Framework (<a href="http://bit.ly/OSETosetf" target="_blank">bit.ly/OSETosetf</a>) is in various stages of development from early prototyping to production release. However, not all of the related source is yet in publicly available repositories.<br><br>3. The Foundation is currently in discussions with 11 states on adoption and deployment of its largest code distribution -- the Voter Services Portal -- which includes online voter registration and several other capabilities ready for back-end integration with legacy systems. It is currently in production in the Commonwealth of VA with roll-outs planned in at least two other states, soon to be announced.<br><br>4. The Foundation is in discussions with at least one state to adopt portions of its second largest code base, called VoteStream, the Knight Foundation-funded election results reporting platform. See <a href="http://votestream.trustthevote.org" target="_blank">votestream.trustthevote.org</a>. <br><br>5. We are not exactly sure of the criteria for “significant”, but the OSET Foundation's CPA recently analyzed all current source code (and all related IP assets) as part of an upcoming audit. That analysis valued the source code of the Voter Service Portal and VoteStream alone with a "street value" of over half a million dollars. "Street value" in this context means, "What a government agency would likely pay on the open market at fair market value to develop the same thing." See this blog post from last July on the topic: <a href="http://bit.ly/OSETcosting" target="_blank">bit.ly/OSETcosting</a> <br><br>OSET Foundation's blogs (e.g., see: <a href="http://bit.ly/OSETswup0615" target="_blank">bit.ly/OSETswup0615</a>) contain some discussions and updates. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--Heather Meeker</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Richard Fontana</b> <<a href="mailto:fontana@sharpeleven.org" target="_blank">fontana@sharpeleven.org</a>><br>Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:55 AM<br>Subject: Re: [License-review] OSET Foundation<br>To: License submissions for OSI review <<a href="mailto:license-review@opensource.org" target="_blank">license-review@opensource.org</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com" target="_blank">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>, "Tzeng, Nigel H." <<a href="mailto:Nigel.Tzeng@jhuapl.edu" target="_blank">Nigel.Tzeng@jhuapl.edu</a>>, Gregory Miller <<a href="mailto:gmiller@osetfoundation.org" target="_blank">gmiller@osetfoundation.org</a>>, Meegan Gregg <<a href="mailto:meegan@osetfoundation.org" target="_blank">meegan@osetfoundation.org</a>>, CAVO <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org" target="_blank">cavo@opensource.org</a>>, Christine Santoro <<a href="mailto:csantoro@osetfoundation.org" target="_blank">csantoro@osetfoundation.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:legal@osetfoundation.org" target="_blank">legal@osetfoundation.org</a><br><br><br>On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:45:02AM -0500, Josh Berkus wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><br>> Our job is to decide:<br>[...]<br>> d) is it going to be used by a significant and sustained project?<br><br>I would like to have a better understanding of the answer to this one.</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#888888"><br>Richard</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in;text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size="3" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">_______________________________________________<br>CAVO mailing list<br><a target="_blank" href="mailto:CAVO@opensource.org">CAVO@opensource.org</a><br><a target="_blank" href="https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo">https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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