<div dir="ltr">The 2008 OVC demo was conducted on v3 .. Brain Fox can chime in.. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Juan E. Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Question, is there currently any open source GPL v.3 voting software
available? I was told that when we release Prime III in September,
it will be the first. I'm trying to confirm that true.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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<div>On 8/29/15 3:32 PM, Juan E. Gilbert
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Patrick, Prime III will be released, probably on GitHub, in
September, see <a href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/grants/201551186/" target="_blank">http://www.knightfoundation.org/grants/201551186/</a><br>
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We received a grant to release it. New Hampshire is using it
Statewide in 2016. So, it will be there. I'm working on the
finishing touches to release it.<br>
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All of your other comments, make sense to me. I don't know Alan
Dechert either, but I agree, he's someone we should know. The work
he describes, we have done with Prime III as well.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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<div>On 8/29/15 1:52 PM, Patrick Masson
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All,<br>
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Here are some comments based on my initial review. I am
particularly concerned with item eleven, OSET's response.<br>
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1. Clear Ballot (<a href="http://clearballot.com" target="_blank">clearballot.com</a>) is not distributed with an OSI
Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150811_RCVBallotDesign.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150811_RCVBallotDesign.pdf</a>>
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2. International Voting Machines response states: "We are
negotiable on certification and public review of software; not
open source"<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150818_IVM.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150818_IVM.pdf</a>><br>
3. No documentation of open source claims (GPL3) for Prime III.
Claims of open source license without access to code is
meaningless.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150826_PrimeIII.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150826_PrimeIII.pdf</a>><br>
4. Statements like, "Designed so that all or part of the
system’s software operates using open source software." and
"Everyone Counts is based on open-source software while
maintaining the security of a locked down system." are
antithetical. Upon review, it could not be determined if the
"eLect" software is actually distributed with an OSI Approved
Open Source License.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150827_EC.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150827_EC.pdf</a>><br>
5, The only information provided in response to "Designed so
that all or part of the system’s software operates using open
source software." is "The database used by the Electionware
election definition system is PostgreSQL, a scalable open source
database." Obviously this does not apply to the actual election
software.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ES&S.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ES&S.pdf</a>><br>
6. I do not know who Alan Dechert is but he sounds like someone
CAVO should reach out to. He seems very committed.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dechert.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dechert.pdf</a>><br>
7. Digital Foundry's response seems to be a proposal to build a
system. While they seem positively inclined toward open source,
they do not state specifically that the work developed would be
assigned an OSI Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_DigitalFoundryResponse.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_DigitalFoundryResponse.pdf</a>><br>
8. In response to the RFI's statement, "Designed so that all or
part of the system’s software operates using open source
software." HartInterCivic states, "Yes. Verity is designed to
use open source software." Using open source software (e.g.
Linux OS, noSQL DB, etc.) is not the same as the
elections/voting software being released with an OSI Approved
Open Source License.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Hart.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Hart.pdf</a>><br>
9. In response to the RFI's statement, "Designed so that all or
part of the system’s software operates using open source
software," Dominion Voting states, "Dominion’s Democracy Suite
is designed so that parts of the system’s software operates
using open source software, such as the use of Linux for the
development of ImageCast optical scan tabulators. In addition,
due to the fa ct that many COTS components form part of the
voting system, additional system components operate on open
source software, such as the Android platform used in
conjunction with the ImageCast X voting terminal." Using open
source software (e.g. Linux OS, Android, etc.) is not the same
as the elections/voting software being released with an OSI
Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dominion.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dominion.pdf</a>><br>
10. Galois appears to seek a contract to build a system. They
make several claims, "Our products are all Open Source,
customers can purchase fit-for-purpose versions, and we have a
variety of support and service contracts." "We can provide
evidence of these claims by simply referring evaluators to our
Open Source product repositories." Looking at their prior work /
GitHub repositories (<<a href="https://github.com/GaloisInc" target="_blank">https://github.com/GaloisInc</a>>),
they appear to distribute work under the BSD license.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Galois.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Galois.pdf</a>><br>
11. OSET has made two claims, that I am leery of: 1. that they
have submitted the OSET Public License (OPL) or some other to
the OSI. I am not aware of any submission for review, but have
asked the OSI Board to confirm. The statement on page 9 that
open source licenses "may not work for procurement regulations"
and elections software requires "certain terms and conditions,"
seem dubious.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_OSET.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_OSET.pdf</a>><br>
12. In response to the RFI's statement, "Designed so that all or
part of the system’s software operates using open source
software," Clear Ballot states, "Clear Ballot is built with
modern software tools, allowing the integration of many open
source pieces of software in its voting system. The main
programming language is Python and many of the web utilities
come from open source software." Using open source software in
the development of a system (e.g. Python, etc.) is not the same
as the elections/voting software itself being released with an
OSI Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ClearBallot.pdf" target="_blank">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ClearBallot.pdf</a>><br>
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Hope this helps,<br>
Patrick<br>
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On Fri, 2015-08-28 at 22:56 -0700, Brent Turner wrote:
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