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Patrick, Prime III will be released, probably on GitHub, in
September, see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/grants/201551186/">http://www.knightfoundation.org/grants/201551186/</a><br>
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We received a grant to release it. New Hampshire is using it
Statewide in 2016. So, it will be there. I'm working on the
finishing touches to release it.<br>
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All of your other comments, make sense to me. I don't know Alan
Dechert either, but I agree, he's someone we should know. The work
he describes, we have done with Prime III as well.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/15 1:52 PM, Patrick Masson
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All,<br>
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Here are some comments based on my initial review. I am
particularly concerned with item eleven, OSET's response.<br>
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1. Clear Ballot (clearballot.com) is not distributed with an OSI
Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150811_RCVBallotDesign.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150811_RCVBallotDesign.pdf</a>>
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2. International Voting Machines response states: "We are
negotiable on certification and public review of software; not
open source"<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150818_IVM.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150818_IVM.pdf</a>><br>
3. No documentation of open source claims (GPL3) for Prime III.
Claims of open source license without access to code is
meaningless.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150826_PrimeIII.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150826_PrimeIII.pdf</a>><br>
4. Statements like, "Designed so that all or part of the system’s
software operates using open source software." and "Everyone
Counts is based on open-source software while maintaining the
security of a locked down system." are antithetical. Upon review,
it could not be determined if the "eLect" software is actually
distributed with an OSI Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150827_EC.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150827_EC.pdf</a>><br>
5, The only information provided in response to "Designed so that
all or part of the system’s software operates using open source
software." is "The database used by the Electionware election
definition system is PostgreSQL, a scalable open source database."
Obviously this does not apply to the actual election software.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ES&S.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ES&S.pdf</a>><br>
6. I do not know who Alan Dechert is but he sounds like someone
CAVO should reach out to. He seems very committed.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dechert.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dechert.pdf</a>><br>
7. Digital Foundry's response seems to be a proposal to build a
system. While they seem positively inclined toward open source,
they do not state specifically that the work developed would be
assigned an OSI Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_DigitalFoundryResponse.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_DigitalFoundryResponse.pdf</a>><br>
8. In response to the RFI's statement, "Designed so that all or
part of the system’s software operates using open source
software." HartInterCivic states, "Yes. Verity is designed to use
open source software." Using open source software (e.g. Linux OS,
noSQL DB, etc.) is not the same as the elections/voting software
being released with an OSI Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Hart.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Hart.pdf</a>><br>
9. In response to the RFI's statement, "Designed so that all or
part of the system’s software operates using open source
software," Dominion Voting states, "Dominion’s Democracy Suite is
designed so that parts of the system’s software operates using
open source software, such as the use of Linux for the development
of ImageCast optical scan tabulators. In addition, due to the fa
ct that many COTS components form part of the voting system,
additional system components operate on open source software, such
as the Android platform used in conjunction with the ImageCast X
voting terminal." Using open source software (e.g. Linux OS,
Android, etc.) is not the same as the elections/voting software
being released with an OSI Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dominion.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Dominion.pdf</a>><br>
10. Galois appears to seek a contract to build a system. They make
several claims, "Our products are all Open Source, customers can
purchase fit-for-purpose versions, and we have a variety of
support and service contracts." "We can provide evidence of these
claims by simply referring evaluators to our Open Source product
repositories." Looking at their prior work / GitHub repositories
(<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/GaloisInc">https://github.com/GaloisInc</a>>),
they appear to distribute work under the BSD license.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Galois.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_Galois.pdf</a>><br>
11. OSET has made two claims, that I am leery of: 1. that they
have submitted the OSET Public License (OPL) or some other to the
OSI. I am not aware of any submission for review, but have asked
the OSI Board to confirm. The statement on page 9 that open source
licenses "may not work for procurement regulations" and elections
software requires "certain terms and conditions," seem dubious.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_OSET.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_OSET.pdf</a>><br>
12. In response to the RFI's statement, "Designed so that all or
part of the system’s software operates using open source
software," Clear Ballot states, "Clear Ballot is built with modern
software tools, allowing the integration of many open source
pieces of software in its voting system. The main programming
language is Python and many of the web utilities come from open
source software." Using open source software in the development of
a system (e.g. Python, etc.) is not the same as the
elections/voting software itself being released with an OSI
Approved Open Source License.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ClearBallot.pdf">http://sfgov2.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/elections/rfi/20150828_ClearBallot.pdf</a>><br>
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Hope this helps,<br>
Patrick<br>
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