<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Brent Turner</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 9:25 AM<br>Subject: Re: White House conference call<br>To: "Juan E. Gilbert" <<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu">juan@ufl.edu</a>><br>Cc: Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>>, Brian Fox <<a href="mailto:bfox@opuslogica.com">bfox@opuslogica.com</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr">Yes-  <div><br></div><div>Larry Rosen and CAVO are fairly strict in advocacy for GPL V3 .. so that is ideal. </div><div><br></div><div>My layperson understanding is allowing commercial  profit may not be fatal to the cause of secure elections, and that can be derived from service models, but I defer to yourself and Larry etc to hash that out. Whatever is best.  Certainly we want to avoid any license loopholes that will allow the "players " to ever take it down a slippery slope and  manipulate the environment . </div><div><br></div><div>Waiting and excited for the word here--   I have cc'd Larry and Brian  for your your convenience </div><div><br></div><div>BT </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Juan E. Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Sure, I'm happy to meet with them. I'm 99% sure it will be GPL. We
    have a meeting to confirm this, but I will keep you posted. We
    aren't releasing it to make a profit. The only concerns we have is
    that a company will take the software, modify it and sale it. <br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 6/27/15 12:10 PM, Brent Turner
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Great--  
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        <div>Based on that, I want to interface you with the Secretary
          of State in CA.. as well as San Francisco County,if that is
          something that you would consider helpful.  We will be meeting
          with the SOS soon.  </div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Please confirm the GPL when you can..  and thanks for the
          info- </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>BT </div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Juan
          E. Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> We are planning GPL.
              I'm waiting on the confirmation from the university, but
              we are looking at GPL.<br>
              <br>
              Thanks,<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <div>On 6/27/15 12:05 PM, Brent Turner wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Is it GPL ? If not, what is it ? </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 9:03
                    AM, Juan E. Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Brent, we
                        are working with New Hampshire directly. Here's
                        a press release from last year after they used
                        it in the mid-term elections. They also used
                        Prime III in their mid-term primaries last year
                        as well. <br>
                        <br>
                        Prime III is the software we developed in my
                        lab. We will release it this summer as open
                        source. <br>
                        <br>
                        Let me know if you have any questions.<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        Thanks,<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <div>On 6/27/15 11:58 AM, Brent Turner wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Thanks Juan !!
                            <div><br>
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                            <div>I can't find any info on that NH
                              system--   </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Do you have some or can you send link /
                              info ?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Best- BT</div>
                            <div><br>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27,
                              2015 at 6:20 AM, Juan E. Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                  This is very helpful.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Also note that New Hampshire is using
                                  Prime III, so there's another open
                                  source project that is actually being
                                  used.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Thanks,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div>On 6/25/15 7:44 PM, Brent Turner
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Quick overview-  
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Attendees were Patrick Masson
                                        ( OSI ) - Brian Fox  ( CAVO ) -
                                        Lawrence Rosen ( CAVO )
                                         Brigette Hunley ( CAVO )  Tim
                                        Mayer ( CAVO) and myself --
                                         Seth and Ed Felton from OSTP </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>I gave the rundown on the
                                        three " open source " voting
                                        projects currently announced in
                                        US--  Travis County TX--  LA, CA
                                          and SF, CA     Let them know
                                        the Texas project has Microsoft
                                        as a partner..  raising
                                        skepticism regarding open source
                                        nature--  and L.A. County being
                                        solicited by Mitch Kapor and
                                        OSET - raising skepticism  as
                                        could degrade toward OPL (
                                        non-OSI / FSF approved ) code..
                                         </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Mentioned time is ripe for CA
                                        to lead as SB 360 ( Padilla )
                                        now law allowing CA to opt out
                                        of fed cert--  and self certify
                                        our advocated GPL v3  OS voting
                                        system--   CAVO can assist with
                                        OSI to clarify standards and
                                        oversee best certification
                                        standards promulgation. </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>EAC chair Mccormack is
                                        receptive.. EAC Hancock is quiet
                                        and needs further education..
                                        especially since he is a tech
                                        lead in L.A. w/ Pew foundation's
                                        Jared Marcotte-- </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Mentioned we need momentum
                                        around " political will " so all
                                        " nudges " are appreciated..
                                         and that we are the only true "
                                        do -gooders" currently in the
                                        space--  </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Patrick spoke about the White
                                        House Playbook and his previous
                                        conversations with the WH as to
                                        that  and copyrights etc..  </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Brian clarified we are
                                        focused on the back end more so
                                        than interface as interface and
                                        mail- in etc are important but
                                        first things first -- Brian
                                        mentioned he wrote the OS code
                                        for the first OS demo at
                                        Linuxword 2008 and it is not
                                        difficult </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Larry advocated GPL v3 as his
                                        preference until further notice </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Brigette mentioned we should
                                        reconvene after our meeting with
                                        SOS Padilla in the next few
                                        weeks--  Seth and Ed agreed and
                                        thanked us -  saying the info
                                        was very valuable to them </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu,
                                        Jun 25, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Juan E.
                                        Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> OK, I
                                            hate that I missed it. I
                                            can't wait to hear about it.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Thanks,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div>On 6/25/15 5:49 PM,
                                              Brent Turner wrote:<br>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">Hello
                                                Juan--
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>The call went very
                                                  well.. We will have a
                                                  follow up after our
                                                  meeting with the CA
                                                  Sec of State Padilla
                                                  -- I will give you
                                                  good notice for that
                                                  and hope you can join-
                                                    </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Best-</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Brent </div>
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                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at
                                                  7:59 AM, Juan E.
                                                  Gilbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
                                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It

                                                    really depends. I'm
                                                    flying standby today
                                                    back home. Send me
                                                    the call
                                                    information. If I
                                                    can't make the
                                                    flight, I will call
                                                    in.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Thanks,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    ---<br>
                                                    Sent from my iPhone<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    > On Jun 25,
                                                    2015, at 10:57 AM,
                                                    Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com" target="_blank">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>>



                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    ><br>
                                                    > Hello Juan-<br>
                                                    ><br>
                                                    > Do you have
                                                    time to sit in on  a
                                                    conference call with
                                                    the WH OSTP at 1 PM
                                                    PST /  4 PM EST ?<br>
                                                    ><br>
                                                    > Best-  Brent<br>
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                                                <pre cols="72">-- 
Juan E. Gilbert, Ph.D. 
Andrew Banks Family Preeminence Endowed Professor & Chair
Computer & Information Science & Engineering Department 
University of Florida 
P.O. Box 116120 
Gainesville, FL 32611 
<a href="tel:352.562.0784" value="+13525620784" target="_blank">352.562.0784</a> (V)
<a href="tel:352.392.1220" value="+13523921220" target="_blank">352.392.1220</a> (F)
<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>
Twitter: @DrJuanGilbert 
<a href="http://www.juangilbert.com/" target="_blank">http://www.juangilbert.com/</a> </pre>
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                                      <pre cols="72">-- 
Juan E. Gilbert, Ph.D. 
Andrew Banks Family Preeminence Endowed Professor & Chair
Computer & Information Science & Engineering Department 
University of Florida 
P.O. Box 116120 
Gainesville, FL 32611 
<a href="tel:352.562.0784" value="+13525620784" target="_blank">352.562.0784</a> (V)
<a href="tel:352.392.1220" value="+13523921220" target="_blank">352.392.1220</a> (F)
<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>
Twitter: @DrJuanGilbert 
<a href="http://www.juangilbert.com/" target="_blank">http://www.juangilbert.com/</a> </pre>
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                            <pre cols="72">-- 
Juan E. Gilbert, Ph.D. 
Andrew Banks Family Preeminence Endowed Professor & Chair
Computer & Information Science & Engineering Department 
University of Florida 
P.O. Box 116120 
Gainesville, FL 32611 
<a href="tel:352.562.0784" value="+13525620784" target="_blank">352.562.0784</a> (V)
<a href="tel:352.392.1220" value="+13523921220" target="_blank">352.392.1220</a> (F)
<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>
Twitter: @DrJuanGilbert 
<a href="http://www.juangilbert.com/" target="_blank">http://www.juangilbert.com/</a> </pre>
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                  <pre cols="72">-- 
Juan E. Gilbert, Ph.D. 
Andrew Banks Family Preeminence Endowed Professor & Chair
Computer & Information Science & Engineering Department 
University of Florida 
P.O. Box 116120 
Gainesville, FL 32611 
<a href="tel:352.562.0784" value="+13525620784" target="_blank">352.562.0784</a> (V)
<a href="tel:352.392.1220" value="+13523921220" target="_blank">352.392.1220</a> (F)
<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>
Twitter: @DrJuanGilbert 
<a href="http://www.juangilbert.com/" target="_blank">http://www.juangilbert.com/</a> </pre>
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Juan E. Gilbert, Ph.D. 
Andrew Banks Family Preeminence Endowed Professor & Chair
Computer & Information Science & Engineering Department 
University of Florida 
P.O. Box 116120 
Gainesville, FL 32611 
<a href="tel:352.562.0784" value="+13525620784" target="_blank">352.562.0784</a> (V)
<a href="tel:352.392.1220" value="+13523921220" target="_blank">352.392.1220</a> (F)
<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu" target="_blank">juan@ufl.edu</a>
Twitter: @DrJuanGilbert 
<a href="http://www.juangilbert.com/" target="_blank">http://www.juangilbert.com/</a> </pre>
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