<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Lauren,</div><div><br></div><div>Supplemental to Larry's note - the GPLv3 is more restrictive - the Apache license essential gives people carte blanche to take the code and do anything with it - without having to acknowledge the source.</div><div><br></div><div>Apache has of course been exceedingly successful because of that - but I believe in election software - you DO require to know when and how people are leveraging what code set - and if they made changes to that.<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br><br></div>
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Subject: RE: GPL license conversation<br>
From: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, May 11, 2015 9:29 pm<br>
To: "'Brent Turner'" <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>>, "'David Webber'"<br>
<<a href="mailto:david@drrw.info">david@drrw.info</a>>, "'Patrick Masson'" <<a href="mailto:masson@opensource.org">masson@opensource.org</a>>, "'CAVO'"<br>
<<a href="mailto:CAVO@opensource.org">CAVO@opensource.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:lauren.massa.lochridge.sf@gmail.com">lauren.massa.lochridge.sf@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi Lauren,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is a simple distinction: The OPL is not an approved open source license; the others are. I used to be general counsel for Open Source Initiative, so I know this distinction is critical to the open source community. You can't call it open source if the license is not formally approved by OSI.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I'm also a member of Apache Software Foundation and I love the Apache License. I believe personally, however, that a reciprocal license would be better for election software, for which I recommended GPLv3. I published an article about this that Brent can forward to you.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please let me know of any further questions or concerns. Open source licensing is a frequent topic in my law practice and open source election and voting software is my latest passion. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In any event, I'd love to see questions like yours on the CAVO@ list. Please join us here:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a target="_blank" href="http://projects.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo">http://projects.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo</a> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lawrence Rosen<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rosenlaw & Einschlag (<a target="_blank" href="http://www.rosenlaw.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.rosenlaw.com</span></a>) <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">3001 King Ranch Rd., Ukiah, CA 95482<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Cell: 707-478-8932 <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" href="http://lnkd.in/D9CWhD"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://lnkd.in/D9CWhD</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Brent Turner [<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com">mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2015 6:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Lawrence Rosen; David Webber; Patrick Masson; CAVO; <a href="mailto:lauren.massa.lochridge.sf@gmail.com">lauren.massa.lochridge.sf@gmail.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> GPL license conversation<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">Hello all : <o:p></o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">Lauren works with LA County elections and also does IEEE standards work.. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">She would prefer this thread stay off the public site-<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">We were talking about GPL.. and she mentioned BSD and Apache.. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">I told her you two would be good for that conversation.. she may be participating after next steps.. I mentioned OPL was not currently considered as open source <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">Lauren.. here is <a target="_blank" href="http://www.opensource.org">www.opensource.org</a> Please intro yourself-<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">Lawrence is OS atty guru.. David a tech guru.. Patrick is Prez of OSI <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">Best to all-<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in">Brent <o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div>
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