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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Dan Wallach <<a href="mailto:dwallach@cs.rice.edu" target="_blank">dwallach@cs.rice.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>I can't speak on behalf of Travis County, but I can explain why we're talking about "suitable open source license" rather than picking a specific one. In short, because lawyers.<b> That's why MIT did their own. That's why Apache did their own. Ditto for Android</b>. It's too early in the game to write down specific legal language. Instead, what matters is that we talk about our intent.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>The idea behind pointing specifically to the vote verification machinery as distinct from the rest of the voting machine is that we haven't nailed down the business specifics yet. That depends, in no small part, on who's paying for it. <b>However, it's essential to the security model that independent third parties have the data and tools necessary to verify the cryptographic aspects of the election, and the best way to make that happen is to develop code that's easy to give away. (Again, under a "suitable" open source license.)</b> The intent is that the Democrats, the Republicans, the newspapers, the League of Women Voters, etc., can take the reference code and build their own bespoke web services or whatever else. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hi Dan, I was pleased to read the above in your email to Brent Turner. I agree completely with your notion that election and voting software should be under a "suitable" open source license. As former general counsel for Open Source Initiative and a long-time attorney for the Apache Software Foundation, this is the same prayer I make every night. I'm glad Texas (or at least Travis County) is on-board. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>In CAVO we've been discussing this very topic. I even wrote an article about it that recommends GPLv3, but other <u>open source</u> licenses – including Apache – are compatible with GPLv3. So long as the result is truly open source software that we and others can distribute under GPLv3, I'll be personally satisfied.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>We're trying to build an open source community for this software that can cooperate around the world. Our parochial current name is "CAVO" but we expect industry standards and open source software to apply everywhere. Texas belongs here too.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>We should have Travis County representatives <u>and you</u> in our community and on our email list. That way we can discuss your concerns effectively in an open source way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Please subscribe to our discussion email list. 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