<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Larry,</div><div><br></div><div>OASIS is the correct place for this work. It is business domain focused - and a lot of the stakeholders in OASIS from States. Also - we understand the formal standards approval process in OASIS very well.</div><div><br></div><div>W3C is focused on the technical aspects, not the business application of those technical tools.<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div>
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Subject: Re: [CAVO] OASIS EML Section 3<br>
From: "Lawrence Rosen" <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, April 30, 2015 7:26 pm<br>
To: "'CAVO'" <<a href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br>
Cc: Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">David and others, <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Given that this OASIS WG has sort of quieted down, have any in that group considered moving this activity to a W3C Community Group? That's easy and free. And fully compatible with open source. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Of course, building a community to work on open standards is even more difficult than building open source software that implements those standards. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lawrence Rosen [<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'CAVO'<br><b>Cc:</b> Lawrence Rosen<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CAVO] OASIS EML Section 3<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">That's a great activity! <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Would you like to invite the OASIS WG participants onto the CAVO list? They're obviously part of this open source community. They might want to teach us something.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> David RR Webber (XML) [<a target="_blank" href="mailto:david@drrw.info">mailto:david@drrw.info</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> CAVO<br><b>Subject:</b> [CAVO] OASIS EML Section 3<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><a target="_blank" href="http://docs.oasis-open.org/election/eml/v5.0/os/EML-Process-Data-Requirements-v5.0.pdf">http://docs.oasis-open.org/election/eml/v5.0/os/EML-Process-Data-Requirements-v5.0.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">FYI - Section 3 - overview of election process.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">This is good conceptual view of all the moving parts. Where it gets weird of course is aligning this with the 5,000 ways elections are done here in the USA.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">It's not hard - but people love to make it so - as the IEEE is doing with their 1622 initiative that has sadly taken a swerve off into a bad place WRT to XML they are generating from models.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Aside: I know - I've told them that is a really bad idea - I've told them not even the OMG is doing it that way - but what do I know - I'm not a UML modeler, right!? They shot the messenger.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Then I see a couple of online hackathons that are completely reinventing both OASIS EML and Google VIP all over again - and ignoring existing standards work.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Ho hum. But we digress.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Back to the task in hand - I'm seeing the OASIS work forms a solid foundation for defining a working process for California - informed by actual public standards, that have actually been used successfully in elections in EU, Asia and USA.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">David<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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