[CAVO] Definition of "open source software"

Brent Turner turnerbrentm at gmail.com
Mon Jan 15 22:56:12 UTC 2018


My layperson/ pedestrian  question...

Why does the Licensor  preference become relevant in the context of the
national security crisis ?  Are there in fact security ramifications ? We
know the " tricksters " seem to have an aversion to GPL ..

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com> wrote:

> Brian Fox wrote:
> > I do not believe I am misinterpreting.  I’m reading the blurb that you
> posted.  It says that the "licensee is free to…"  it doesn’t say that the
> licensee is *required* to grant those freedoms to others after making
> modifications. This is the fundamental difference between GPLs and other
> licenses.
>
>
>
> That distinction is accurate.
>
>
>
> But the California Constitution shouldn't declare that the open source
> license MUST be copyleft. Licensor's choice! If the licensor prefers Apache
> to GPL, she is the licensor. Licensee takes under THOSE licensor's terms,
> not necessarily what open source license YOU wish for!
>
>
>
> CAVO's choice is GPLv3. For that license, "licensee is free to...." And
> per the GPLv3 license itself, "licensee is (also) required to...." That
> applies to OUR licensed GPLv3 software. It is enforceable.
>
>
>
> Use GPLv3 for CAVO-developed software! We have long-since recommended that
> license for our community primarily (but not only) because of copyleft. No
> change is implied.
>
>
>
> /Larry
>
>
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>
>
> *From:* Brian J. Fox [mailto:bfox at opuslogica.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 2:26 PM
> *To:* Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com>
> *Cc:* CAVO <cavo at lists.opensource.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [CAVO] Definition of "open source software"
>
>
>
> I do not believe I am misinterpreting.  I’m reading the blurb that you
> posted.  It says that the "licensee is free to…"  it doesn’t say that the
> licensee is *required* to grant those freedoms to others after making
> modifications.
>
>
>
> This is the fundamental difference between GPLs and other licenses.
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Please don't misinterpret. Some open source licenses are copyleft, others
> aren't. In both cases, however, the "complete source code" to the open
> source software must be provided. /Larry
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>
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> *From:* Brian J. Fox [mailto:bfox at opuslogica.com <bfox at opuslogica.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 10:41 AM
> *To:* Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com>; CAVO <
> cavo at lists.opensource.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [CAVO] Definition of "open source software"
>
>
>
> "or other consideration" means that they don’t have to make their changes
> to the software open source as well.  That’s a fail in my book.
>
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> On Jan 13, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Colleagues:
>
>
>
> The following definition is being proposed for the California Constitution
> in a voter initiative to fund the development of open source election
> software in this state:
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>
>
> “Open source software” means software actually distributed to the public
> under software licenses that provide that every licensee is free to make
> copies of the software or derivative works thereof, to distribute them
> without payment of royalties or other consideration, and to access and use
> the complete source code of the software.
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> Comments?
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>
> /Larry
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>
>
> Lawrence Rosen
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> Brian
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> Thanks,
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> Brian
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