[CAVO] [VVSG-election] [VVSG-interoperability] Single Point of Failure - the Scan Head - RE: By November, Russian hackers could target voting machines

[Brent Turner]

Arthur--

No.

Disclosed code is a ruse.  E S & S was busted and fined in CA but I'm sure
you don't need that example.  This is elementary so I am curious as to your
message.

 The OVC ( Alan Dechert )  position has been strictly GPL since at least
2008. I know your association with that group started fading around that
time.  Brian Fox( first employee of Free Software Foundation / Bash shell
creator ) '   did the OVC 2008 Linuxworld demo with GPL-- and Kai Ping Yee
followed suit with his  GPL based OVC work..

CAVO now recommends -- per Larry Rosen and a host of others.. GPL v3

Best-

BT


On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Arthur Keller <ark at soe.ucsc.edu> wrote:

> No, the key is to have a license where the software is disclosed and
> people are free to experiment with it. Those were the principles of the OVC
> Disclosed license we created years ago.
>
> Best regards,
> Arthur
>
> On Jul 30, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Brent Turner <turnerbrentm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All--   My apologies for not realizing Kapor had backed away from his
> association with OSET.  Through the succession of name changes it is hard
> to track principals.  The main thing to recognize here is that even though
> an " open source " group may technically obtain Open Source Initiative
> licensing..  OSI recommends the group attempting to peddle services or
> products under the open source flag should be scrutinized for open source
> history and their participation with the open source community.  A group
> that does not reach out to the said open source community - is founded by
> proprietary purveyors- and invents new licenses and licensing schemes is
> obviously going to raise eyebrows. The open source community is very
> protective of reputation  as it is now understood the proprietary code
>  businessmen are discovering the traction of open source.. and the traction
> coming available in the election system arena. Obviously there is not only
> a money grab issue inherent .. but also a power grab issue due to the
> outflow of elections
>
> Groups that do not advocate the ubiquitous General Public License continue
> to raise hackles  (even though we have managed to curtail most efforts to
> pass through offending aspects of ill conceived license attempts.)
> Furthermore,  misdirection statements  such as " The government purchasers
> say they want a new open source license " are flags as well.  The idea is
> to utilize a license that will encourage participation from the community.
>
> Billionaires like Kelly - Kapor and Paul Allen are coming into the space
> of elections with a fury, but this issue is not simply solved by throwing
> money toward politicians or large designs. The best design is so simple
> it's almost evasive. By keeping it simple with GPL and COTS  .. the
> jurisdictions will be economically empowered.. and removed from the current
> " vendor trap "
>
> BT
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Gregory Miller <
> gmiller at osetfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Apologies folks,
>>
>> But my Legal Department has me under an obligation whenever this comes
>> up, to clarify that Mitch Kapor is no longer involved with the OSET
>> Institute (Foundation) or its TrustTheVote Project, and has not been since
>> 2011.
>>
>> The OSET Institute is funded by several private philanthropists, led by
>> former Facebook general counsel Chris Kelly, the Democracy Fund, and the
>> Knight Foundation.  Moreover, we receive no funding whatsoever from
>> Microsoft Corporation nor any commercial vendor of election technology.
>>
>> Sorry, but I am obligated by agreement to make this clarification due to
>> continued misstatements by others.
>> Thank you and respectfully,
>> Gregory Miller
>> OSET Institute
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Brent Turner <turnerbrentm at gmail.com>
>> wrote in relevant part
>>
>>
>>> ..... we need to watchdog anything that has Microsoft's involvement as
>>> it might in fact be an in-road for Mitch Kapor's OSET effort to nuance the
>>> open source voting effort--
>>>
>>
>>
>
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