[beyond-copyright] easy question to start, naming

[Deb Nicholson]

I'm completely happy to skirt the open and/or free convo with a name that
uses neither.
Deb


On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Karl Fogel <kfogel at red-bean.com> wrote:

> Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthorn at opensource.org> writes:
> >    Especially since Karl's got "question copyright.org", I've got to
> >    question the use of "copyright" here and second the suggestion of
> >    "beyond licensing".  OSI has limited itself to licensing to both
> >    great success but also potentially missed opportunity.  It feels
> >    like this could be a part of defining the next generation of OSI.
> >
> >+1
> >
> >This. Exactly this.
>
> Me-too post: I also prefer "Beyond Licensing", for all the reasons people
> have already given in this thread.
>
> Regarding Tony's followup to Allison:
>
> > In your earlier summary of the O'Reilly sustainability summit, you
> > wrote about addressing "aspects of open source beyond copyright
> > licenses, with a goal of making a clear simple statement of
> > principles".  I'd personally prefer that we not use "copyright" or
> > "licensing" in the name of the working group, but rather something
> > like "openness principles". That approach could suggest the creation
> > of a list of characteristics that could be used in parallel with the
> > OSD.  I can imagine copyright being among those characteristics, but
> > we probably also want to address a broader range of topics.  (I have a
> > few in mind, but this is not the time, nor place, for that.)
>
> I think "open" or "openness principles" will mean too many things to too
> many different people -- it won't be specific enough.  For those with some
> familiarity with the OSI, saying "beyond licensing" is pretty concrete: it
> means the OSI supporting open source software by means other than
> licenses.  That's probably the right audience to aim for, and the right
> message to send to that audience.
>
> So I actually like "Beyond Licensing" more than "Openness Principles".  If
> we have consensus on the new name, maybe Allison can rename this mailing
> list to the new name, set up the wiki, etc?
>
> Meanwhile, I'll follow up separately with a mail about some of the things
> we discussed at the meeting.
>
> Best regards,
> -Karl
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